The two met in 2012 on the set of Showtime’s Californication. Manson played himself in two episodes in season seven, and Bates, kind of obviously, scored the show.

And he didn’t like Manson. Not at first.

“No,” he says. “Not at all. He had just gotten off a flight from Germany and came straight to the rehearsal. Everyone was hot and fatigued. I wasn’t really primed for his type of humor and rhetoric. I was pretty direct with him: ‘Can we just play your fucking songs and get out of here?’ He was like, ‘Can I be your friend?’ I’m like, ‘No. Let’s just play ‘The Dope Show’ and get out of here.’”

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